What is contributing to the growing and prominent movement of ex-evangelicals in the United States? Sarah McCammon, a National Political Correspondent for NPR and author of the forthcoming book The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church, joins us to discuss why so many people are leaving white evangelicalism and how that exodus impacts the broader culture. We discuss ex-evangelicals’ insights about why so many evangelicals are primed to accept “alternative facts,” why most white evangelicals remain loyal to Trump, and what all of this portends about the 2024 U.S. presidential election.